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Plato's Game
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Plato's Game My earlier post today got me thinking of this. If you couldn't tell from my profile name, or some of my posts on here, I enjoy looking at different aspects of life, love, emotions and relationships from a philosophical viewpoint. My profile name comes from a idea of Plato's, which is referred to as Plato's Cave Allegory. It became sort of a game I play, both with others and by myself, to explore my thoughts and perceptions. In short, the cave allegory is this. Three people in a cave, chained to a wall. They can see nothing except the wall in front of him. Behind them is a fire, which casts shadows on the wall, of the objects/people that pass by on a walkway. Their perceptions of reality are based upon those shadows that they see, and/or things they hear that are associated with the shadows. Plato suggests that the prisoners would begin a ‘game’ of guessing which shadow would appear next and goes into their perceptions of those shadows. When one is released and ventures out into the world, he discovers that how he perceived many things was wrong. His perception is changed by the new stimulus. This is merely a brief explanation of the allegory, but I really don't want to produce a thesis on this topic here.  It is enough though, to give a idea to the question/idea's, the game, that I wanted to share. I have found and still find, perceptions changed from things/people I see in the world. Differing from the shadows, or perceptions that I have accumulated over the years. LesbianPersonals has however, given me some of the best examples for me to play with. This place is a smorgasbord of ideas. From posts on these blogs, to comments on pictures, to profiles. hahahaSo, while on this site, have you found any old perceptions changed? Any confirmed? Have you found a certain aspect of sexuality that you held, changed or tweaked? Anything about your preferences, when it comes to people, sex or relationships? While this can be a deep exercise, I recommend keeping it light and fun. " I refuse to belong to any organization that would accept me as a member" Groucho Marx |
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Some of my changes in perception, after finding this site over 5 years ago. According to my ex wife, I was extremely kinky. Always thought that on the old Kink-o-Meter, I had to register as at least a 8. After looking around and chatting with a few people on here over the years, I have found that I would barely register as a 3. By 35 or 40, I was absolutely positive I knew exactly what love was, and knew for sure that I had experienced it. Today, I'm absolutely sure that for me, it's near impossible to put into words or fully understand. And I'm positive, I've never really found true romantic love. In the past, I could have told you exactly what kind of woman I was attracted to. Physically, emotionally, intellectually. Today, I wonder more if those ideas have been directed by my perceptions of what I was looking for, and less on what truly attracted me. " I refuse to belong to any organization that would accept me as a member" Groucho Marx
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Like the Matrix, the idea of a reality that is not real has been around for a long time.
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What is actual reality? Is there always another veil to pierce and another dimension?
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8/25/2018 3:43 pm |
I think when it comes down to the line we change perception as we get older because everything changes for us but does the world change for us or do we change to adapt to what the world wants us to see? .Has what we have not seen been there all along and we now are just becoming aware of it? I feel that because of my own view of things maybe its time I have a change of perception ..lol I loved the Matrix movie it really was food for thought...always wanted to dodge the bullet ..but the bullet always comes back to bite me in the butt! 
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Wow alright we shall see on this one then....
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8/25/2018 5:05 pm |
There is a lot of factor in how one's perception is . like mentioned before age also have to consider religion,beliefs,up bringing,
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All good answers, but I was thinking more of how or if being on this site has changed any of your perspectives. For example, before I got on this site, I had more than a few women tell me that very few women liked viewing any kind of porn. After meeting several women on here, I began to believe that wasn't necessarily true. " I refuse to belong to any organization that would accept me as a member" Groucho Marx
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It’s changed mine with the extent that many of the men who’ve contacted me can’t / won’t be honest with admit they’re in relationships in order to get a bit on the side. I did expect a bit more integrity even though it’s a sex site. Am not saying this is true for all men or male bashing but it’s what I’ve found.
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The matrix is a consctruct and not an actuality of being in a an existent body. But then so are most shared constructs of culture. To live in a cave though .. I'm fairly certain that is meant to mean that one doesn't understand the words being said to them. Those in the cave were very much slaves. The turn to see the fire and the turn to see the puppet masters set up for the final turn of the third degree burns of the sun. The cave is the construct, but then so is the sun described and often taken as freedom or liberation. Like the concept of awakening ... awaken to what exactly? What's really going on? Awake to view one's own wake. Awaken to find the truth given by your beloved has you in a cave. "well I may have been born yesterday, but I still went shopping" -The gay kid from kids in the hall.
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Well I take most of Plato's writings (the old greek not you) as mind control parables meant to take those of medium to high intelligence to the level of slave. I think it was Dante who wrote something along the lines of "The city opens it's doors to the savage" ... "the savage then opens his doors to the city." The city then a metaphor for sophisticated extensionality of those who created that culture .. The Guardians, watchtowers, anchors, the injunctions of what is rite/wrong .. all meant to control behavior and instill the presence of authority into the savages mind. In ancient greek the basic myths that sound like child's stories were for control of the less intelligent, until Plato came along and tried to make the quest for truth the more better place to hide control. Later Aristotle took it a step further in expanding the quest for truth to work through the sieve of science. So by knowing the ways of nature One can become in tune with the natural world, and the learned sage can then bring order to the understanding and utility of the world. Plato more left hand/right hemisphere and Christians adopted that and turned the Good into God. Aristotle more right hand/left hemisphere and the renaissance adopted that approach to craft a universe of ordered laws. Both paths lead to the valleyed lowlands of flatlandia. A more up to date variant is the work of EJ Gold in the books 'The Human Biological Machine as a Transformational Apparatus' and 'Life in the Labyrinth' there he tells the story of a rebel fish living in an aquarium who suspects beyond the forcefield that holds the world together was a larger world with entities that controlled their very lives. He jumps out and a handler puts him back in ... how then does he explain to the occupants of the tank what he saw? They call him crazy and there in is the story of many pioneers/saints who break the rules and are rewarded/punished by their handlers. Was the handlers a figment of this fishes imagination? did he invent them to then try and get the edge on the other occupants? Did they incept these handlers into his young savage mind? As for what has changed from this site ... well having had a profile off and on since 1998 if memory works ... not much ... I'd say ultimately the only website that holds that was CL. That was the wild terrain.
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Well I take most of Plato's writings (the old greek not you) as mind control parables meant to take those of medium to high intelligence to the level of slave. I think it was Dante who wrote something along the lines of "The city opens it's doors to the savage" ... "the savage then opens his doors to the city." The city then a metaphor for sophisticated extensionality of those who created that culture .. The Guardians, watchtowers, anchors, the injunctions of what is rite/wrong .. all meant to control behavior and instill the presence of authority into the savages mind. In ancient greek the basic myths that sound like child's stories were for control of the less intelligent, until Plato came along and tried to make the quest for truth the more better place to hide control. Later Aristotle took it a step further in expanding the quest for truth to work through the sieve of science. So by knowing the ways of nature One can become in tune with the natural world, and the learned sage can then bring order to the understanding and utility of the world. Plato more left hand/right hemisphere and Christians adopted that and turned the Good into God. Aristotle more right hand/left hemisphere and the renaissance adopted that approach to craft a universe of ordered laws. Both paths lead to the valleyed lowlands of flatlandia. A more up to date variant is the work of EJ Gold in the books 'The Human Biological Machine as a Transformational Apparatus' and 'Life in the Labyrinth' there he tells the story of a rebel fish living in an aquarium who suspects beyond the forcefield that holds the world together was a larger world with entities that controlled their very lives. He jumps out and a handler puts him back in ... how then does he explain to the occupants of the tank what he saw? They call him crazy and there in is the story of many pioneers/saints who break the rules and are rewarded/punished by their handlers. Was the handlers a figment of this fishes imagination? did he invent them to then try and get the edge on the other occupants? Did they incept these handlers into his young savage mind? As for what has changed from this site ... well having had a profile off and on since 1998 if memory works ... not much ... I'd say ultimately the only website that holds that was CL. That was the wild terrain. " I refuse to belong to any organization that would accept me as a member" Groucho Marx
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